Folks, if you want to get a good grip on what you can do with symetrical terrains, I would suggest look at the bryce tutorial sites, as there are no tutorials for exploring this in Vue... There are several tutorials out there and they get saem results as in Bryce minus the textures... Although, the Vue terrains do not map textures as easily as the Bryce, the principles are the same... here are some simple to follow ones... http://calyxa.best.vwh.net/pearl/clipart.html http://www.pinhead.robbes.com/tutorial/door/Door0.htm http://home.attbi.com/~paulvlos/Tut/lattice.htm http://www.alteredstate.net/tutorial1.htm Very advanced stuff http://users.pandora.be/roobol/tutorials/framestutorials.html http://home.attbi.com/~paulvlos/Cloud_Tut/Combinationsky1.htm