Nukeboy wrote: "First off... don't rely on Poser to give you any kind of quality rendering." Huh?!?. I beg to differ my friend. Both Poser and Bryce have their strengths and weaknesses. Here's a side by side comparison of the same Vicki 2 model rendered in Poser4 and Bryce5 with one spotlight as the only light source, same textures same pose and aproximately the same lighting, camera angle and focal length. The hair is Casseopia hair by Vairesh (available at daz3d.com). I think Poser handles it's own models and native textures a little better than Bryce does, but it's pretty close. I still prefer to use Poser figures in Bryce because Poser tends to crash if you make scenes too big (no matter how much RAM you give it).