Some have asked why CL doesn't give a date or hints about P5. Frankly, I'm shocked that Kupa said what he did. What if one of those things can't be fit in? Are we going to be upset? I'll bet CL will be disparaged for days. How many people have read this thread and are thinking "Wow, I should wait for P5 and not buy P4"? By announcing a date for P5 CL effectively eliminates sales of P4 and places themselves in a nasty bind if they miss the projected date. I'm sure CL wants to release P5 ASAP, but let's encourage them to be thorough so that we don't have to put up with so many (notice I'm not stupid enough to say "any")bugs. Also, for those with suggestions for P5 and beyond, don't forget that CL has a wishlist submission area on their web page.