Yeah... if you were using professional models they would be a LOT more expensive. It's like lightwave is in the thousands compared to poser which is like 200. They are worth it though... I can't even touch the p4 man or woman after using them. They can actually look like something besides a distortion of one form. Mike 2 and Vicki 2 even more so. I hurt myself buying them.. but it was more than worth it. Anz