Hey hey Bloodsong :) Sorry I missed replying to this, but believe me your rep was appreciated. I am sooo straightened now I don't even know which way is up or forward. Just like my figures trying to do tricks in Poser. Think I got the idea, sort of. Opened the 2 Poser3 figure combinations into P4 ok, but they are all over the place (probably due to my original bad placements) though they looked ok in P3. As placement is crucial coz the 2 figues interact in slow motion no less, fixing them up is about as time-consuming as doing them from scratch. I realize I'd better ask any further questions in the animating group, so I'll toddle on over there. But thanks heaps for all the help :) :) Masha