Hi Scott, to clarify, CR2Edit is NOT a text editor, although it includes as one of its 75 or so tools a dual pane one that I think is the best around. All is automated, about the only reasons to use the Manual Editor is if you are curious or like Anton above, discovering yet new wonders! Most users will never see a line of a Poser file, they just click the buttons to say extract embedded geometry and create a library file with an external obj and it is done. And I prefer that people get it from my site if possible, since Daz of course takes 50%, its only there as a convenience for those who can't use PayPal. Dan PS Scott,our VB thread is down around #300 or so now, but its still growing, LOL! http://www.zenwareonline.com for CR2Edit, ZenPaint, ZenTile, VueMaster and the complete line of Zenware graphics apps