And just what do those 75+ tools control? Answer: Text It's text editor Dan. You just hid that behind your fancy pantsy UI. ;-) Seriously though. I sometimes reduce things to very simple terms because I never know how much users know about the subject. I didn't mean to diminish your programming in any way. Everyone who owns a computer has had to use a text editor at some point. So I like to keep things familiar for them until they are comfortable with all the technical lingo. Yeah. That thread took a hellava turn didn't it? I really apprieciate your help. I bet it looks like hyroglyphics to most people. ;-) ScottA