The thing to note here is "THE critter". The hobbyist making a MAT file or two can certainly take the time to learn how to make it in a text editor, but the professional trying to make a little money in the Poser game who needs to make 150 in a day, including testing each one... And I won't be sucked into the Linux VS Win thing, I hope some day there is a Poser for Linux -- I started on an Apple2, LOL! cheers, Dan http://www.zenwareonline.com for CR2Edit, ZenPaint, ZenTile, VueMaster and the complete line of Zenware graphics apps