Well, I bit the bullet and purchased Tree Druid. It's pretty cool. I'll need to play around with it a bit to really get a handle on it . . but it does open up possibilities in Carrara that aern't there naturally (no pun intended). I also picked up the ZenStar extension. Cool little freebie, I must say! I recommend evryone picking it up (hey, it's FREE): http://www.zenstar.com/cstar.html -Otis