Also, Steve & Rena (PoserWorld) made a proper Renaissance neck ruff and show it on both necks and wrists of a couple of different costumes. Cooler's Harlequin costume is perhaps most accurate for what you are doing with the jester. If you want a really floppy neck ruffle, such as worn by Poirrot and other clowns, I'm not sure where you'd look. Carolly