I too am back to 4.03, and so far everything is ok. I found the backup folder btw lol Maybe I'm stupid but I thought update patches were supposed to sort out bugs..I've told Steve quite a few others, like Marge above, have also had problems with the 4.05 patch. I guess it has a problem with some systems. When are we gonna get software that you can use without thinking about whether or not it's gonna crash or produce the blue screen of death?? JoeBlack