Thank you to everyone for their replies, I checked them all tonite and will take a second look tomorrow. I use Corel V9 and Dream is not included. A couple of the programs you suggested look a bit to tekkie for me and a couple of others are way above my price range. I have inherited or downloaded etc a couple of possibles including Bryce and Amapi 4.1 that are over my head technically, also tried 3D Canvas download but doesn't seem to save in any format I can import into Poser? Same problem with old TriSpectives, easy to use and imports 3dS but only saves as a jpg or native format in 3d. Do have Truespace 3SE but haven't tried it yet. Another thought I had was to draw in Corel, then import to Photomodeller lite for modelling. I'm sure something will fall into place for me eventually and I was appreciative of your advice. Just for fun have included an almost finished shot of the vanity unit I'm putting together in Poser. Tommy.