"First... my copy of poser 4 was traded for off a friend (Had a bunch things like AutoCad which decided to not like my computer anymore.) But naturally I didn't get the manual... I wouldn't mind using someone else's robe just buying it then just messing with it till it fits my needs but anything I should beware of copyright wise if I do that? It is very unlikely I would use the finished image for any type of profit but I like to be careful... But your help is most definately appreciated." LKA