Dendras I want to clarify that I meant Ron's actions when I said this has gone on long enough. He has got into it with many people here, newbies, users and vendors alike. A best he is a daily inconvience on the forums and at worst he is excellent at causing threads to burst into flames. I'm not really into seeing someone get bashed by the powers that be, but at a certain point something needs to be done. From what I know of you I didn't believe that you sent that message nor do I think you would be stupid enough to send one like that. A forwarded message can have any sort of text added to it. Impudicus Rex is right, who wins if you leave? And who loses? -Moon