yeah that tailbase is a bad hack, but for the life of me I couldn't get the tail to not distort the hip. Actually, after Lionheart escaped, I found one of the older files without the tailbase actually started working, but after I saved that file, I could never get it to work again. either saving somehow screwed it up or I did something magic the one time it worked, or I misplace the wrking file or Poser just was yanking my chain. Never got it to work again. Regards- Lemurtek