Gee Ron.....from what we see here and in other posts, it seems the only one who insults and threatens people and then cries harrasment on response is YOU. You cant abuse some one or demand they do your bidding and then tell them they cannot respond to your abuse or demand! It seems to me, judging from various posts I have read recently, and from both accounts in this very post that this is what you do all the time. You insult people, you make your demands, and then tell them they cannot respond, yet if they do , you will report them. Have you ever heard the story of Peter and the Wolf? You are worse.....your own arrogance prevents you from seeing the destruction you cause when you give 'constructive" criticism. However, the criticism is only constructive in your own personal opinion, others feel it is abusive, and then you cry "VICTIMISATION". For the record.....I happen to agree with most of the opinions I have read in this forum, and I will add to this my own 2cents worth: You are an opinionated asshole who claims TOS violations, harrassment and abuse when it suits you. You cry victimisation and abuse when you are feeling guilt, and then you transport that guilt and serve it up as someone else's fault. People like you NEVER take responsibility for their own actions. It is ALWAYS someone else's fault. You know the funniest thing I find about this absurdity :- You are supposedly a minister or minister's partner. The only charitable thing you show to people is your exit from threads, everything else is a quest for vengeance. Be happy ronknights...and leave the good folks of renderosity be! You may actually be rewarded for this good deed. It certainly has to be better than the punishment you are certian to receive for all your falsehoods and manipulations of late!!!