Okay, I was going to stay out of this thread, but....I can't ,I probably should, but I just plain can't. Right now, BOTH of you (Ron and Dendrus) are disruptive. I really don't care anymore how this got started or even who started it. Ron, I don't know you except from your posts. You do have a way of aggravating people. You don't know when to just sit back and keep quiet no matter what is being said. Sometimes silence is the best thing instead of continually pushing someone's buttons on purpose. Stating something once to prove a point is a good thing, but if you have to state it over and over because you don't think people are getting it, it's not that...it's just that they don't like to be nagged or hit over the head with someone's opinion all of the time. Just like kids, we all just stop listening. On the other hand, I have seen you be quite helpful sometimes. That is the Ron that everyone wants to see. Dendras, I know you a little better, having had a run in or two a while back with you while being an admin and helping with the store at 3dcommune. So, you are't innocent either. I know what you are capable of doing and saying, been on the receiving end of it a time or two. BUT, I also know that you can be a very sweet and caring person so there ya go. :) Dendras, I really don't want to see you leave here, it's good to see you posting and see some of your products at the Marketplace. Right now, I just want BOTH OF YOU TO JUST SHUT UP!!!!!!!! This thread is like a freaking train wreck....no one really wants to see it, but they can't stay away..even me who has tried to ignore all of the threads like this over the last several days. I think it's time to spend more time at the Commune, at least this kind of crap isn't seen very often. My ten bucks worth.