Penguinisto wrote: ...Athlons usually beat the crap out much faster P4 chips, especially in the video-intensive performance departments. Video (data handling and processing) is one area where the P4s are consistently particularly good in comparison to the Athlons. The Athlons beat the P4s on raw number crunching (due to their superior floating point performance), and raw number crunching is what Poser makes use of when it is rendering (as does Bryce, Max, etc). The P4s are also good where programs are written to take advantage of their successful features - Lightwave7 is one 3D app that now renders much faster on a P4. Owners of P4s and Athlons (and current Macs) can all be satisfied that they have highly capable computers that make the pro workstations of just two years ago look like steam engines.