Hey, thanks! Yeah thanks to your morphs it's coming closer and closer! Maybe if I pull with a magnet a little bit on his mouth it would get rid of that line? Must've happened by me editing the length of the face and stuff. Actually his eyes are sort of a blue jean grey, although that picture does bring out a hazel look to his eyes doesn't it? I tweaked the "puffy eye" morph on him quite a bit, I can try for a little more though. It doesn't seem to make the under eye look puffy enough. But then if I get him in a different pose, it does look puffier. Yep, I just noticed that right before you said it looking at it in Poser, hehe! Weird cooincidence. : ) Hehe, you're giving me ideas on what to render him doing when I get this done. ; ) -RockNRollWoman