Yes, it gets moved, without a notice L Picnic, thank you for what you said. It did clear something up, regarding how much heat they get because of Edgenet. This is a big reason I attempted to stay out of it. But this thing with DD's file and Jack- It didn't violate any privacy. No private information was taken. No evil intent was meant on DD's part as the file was on his site with the readme in it. Like I said before, it was Jack's not knowing he could read the readme before hand that caused his problem, not DD or the PFO. Yet I saw the thread after Jack posted it. People got all riled up (and many did point out how to check to files, etc) and many blamed the PFO. This kind of stuff has just got to stop. Period. This is the type of stuff I refer to. The way someone says something, like Darht there, or Jack in just the title of that thread. Just the title alone came off as a slam, not a warning about what was in the file. And what came afterwards is best left alone. Darth, :o) your comment DID uin a perfectly good thread. Now mine have as well. I'm sorry about it, but I needed to get it off my chest. It bugs the hell out of me when someone mis-represents something like Jack did in his thread. For the most part, the staff here DO do a good job. But all I am saying is the admins need to be more careful about what they say, and how they say it. Sorry if you can't understand that. If you can, good.