Lets play a game shall we? Game on: I'm a warez kiddie. I come in here looking for freebies and read gothgurl's message. I say to myself: "uh oh, I hope they don't ban together and actually do something that will stop my free software from flowing". Then I notice that people are jumping on gothgurl for telling too many specifics about the problem. Making her look guilty. Ah ha! (I say to myself). These people can't hurt me. They can't even organize themselves without turning on eachother. GAME OVER: Warez users 1 Anti-warez users 0 ScottA