Poppi, Not to give you a hard time but I just don't think you will find the PFO that much fun...They are way too serious for their own good....The whole growth of this Poser community has been somewhat like the program itself...It started out rather small with Poser1 and look where we are today....There have been problems along with the way along with some really wonderful successes in the process...Of course this thread is supposse to belong to Legume and I am really OT considering....So I would like to say this, Legume in my mind has been a consistent source of thought provoking whatever...Whether it be a piece of his artwork or simply a thread that he started...I have always gotten the impression there is alot of thought that goes into most everything he does...He is probably one of the most, if not the most, intelligent person here on this forum...