You know...some might think that this is just a bunch of people playing around with a toy or just a bunch of artists "futzing" about...but when I see notes like this, and this level of free and open communication and exchange, it gives one the sense of what the internet is all about and what its potentials are. Can you imagine if our scientists got to really exchanging notes and observations like this? We'ld have cold fusion and hot lunches for everybody before you know it..... Scarab <-little tear in my eye....seriously