Hellborn, I'm sorry to hear that you are so unhappy with Vue. But it is primarily a 3D scene creation/rendering program, and THAT it does very well. I agree it could stand to be faster in some respects, but I for one have learned how to get around that, as have most of us, in favor of the render quality and the realism of the plants, terrains, materials, etc. Bryce 5 is a great program too, from what I have heard and seen, but although, yes, you can move objects around quicker in Bryce, it renders much slower. To me, the ease of use, the material editor, the World Browser, the render quality and speed, the realistic (and highly editable) plants, and the amazingly intuitive interface (not to mention the price) far outweigh any of the down sides Vue has. That might have been World Builder you were thinking of. From what I've read, you need a degree in astrophysics and quantum mechanics to use it. But to each his own. I hope you find something that makes you happy, and works the way you want it to.