One other thing about alt attributes .. they only work on mouseover so those restricted(because of a disability or for whatever reason) to keyboard control will never see them. Oh, also, it is not the alt attribute that causes the popup .. it is the browser itself(in IE it is called a tooltip) and not all browsers have them. i am not saying lose it if that is the way you want to go. i am just saying that it would be wise to add text links to the bottom of the page as well for those who cannot view the navigation as you wish for them to. Okay, i am finally done on that subject .. sorry i did not fit this into one post but i was doing three things at once(not wise for me) and i kept losing my train of thought.