"Thanks for clarifying... But since you so eloquently put it "Sounds shady"... it's perfectly legit... Can I help it if the guy who traded in Poser didn't put in the manual?... Second if what you mean by sounds shady is checking to see what I can do as far as making cash using the pre-supplied models... I do not plan to use them for commercial use at the moment or in the for seeable future... I just like to know my limitations... You see it's a fascinating thing laws... if you know them well enough anybody can go down... So most likely you can now see why I am being careful..." LKA