Ron... just to help you some... JackASS or JackOFF would be spelt with 3 asterasks not four.. JackMEOFF would be spelt with 5... JackINABOX would be with 6 asterasks... I love how you can equate people as childish and not see that as offensive... you are so AWESOME!! I've known 3 year olds that can count better than you. :o) Jack ~who wants to be a LEGUME when he grows up!!