There is a difference between not liking the "bad apples" who spoil the bunch, and not liking "the orchard," or whatever the proper symbolism would be. Renderosity has a stated set of rules which are supposed to be "our mission," our "rules of conduct." Some people are not following those rules, and in fact are flagrantly abusing them and whomever stands against them. This is not some playground where I need to leave if I don't like the way someone perverted the rules. This is, however a place where I have every right to expect civilized treatment. Again, if you're not sure what that means, read the section of the TOS I provided above. Ron