You forgot to mention that there are a (few) modelers here that use beta to market there items. Receintly I beta test a prop here and it had quite a few seam problems. I did everything you said including the screen shot with arrows. Total write up ect.... Well I don't think I was even log out before he had it posted for downloading. When ever I design a site I allways, allways get inexperianced users to use it- It's guareented to crash. lol But its better in the end.