Bryce bugs the hell out of high end users because it produces very high quality still pics, and on the net the majority of people don't look at movies(where hi-end app's excel), so it gives the immpression that a good bryce user is better than an average, say max user. Another annoyance for hi-end users is that the majority of brycers users are using the software of thier choice, with total control over thier work, where most max/maya/xsi users are producing someone elses ideas on the software thier boss has told them to use! --hope no hi-end boys read this, they might think I'm another uppity brycer! ;)