Geez its ART ART ART......Art has no defenition ART is what you make it to one man a velvet Elivis picture is a piece of crap to the next man its ART....now i've had my little vent :o) look at it this way it took more than one man (i use the word man in the biblical sense btw :o) to do the CGI in Star wars, Pearl harbour etc, like there was texture artists, modelers, animators, so where just doing the same......Steve