Well, thanks all (blushing with surprise). Kalypso, yes, the tears are post--actually 'tubes' in PSP6--don't know where I got them now, but there are a LOT of tubes out there--many more than nozzles for Painter. I also 'smudged' them just a bit on their layer I've been playing a lot with Poser/Bryce and a lot of post work lately (and I have to say this is due to Lorraine's images from the past few months). Yeah, Allie--looking at it, she does have a slightly passing likeness to Julia Roberts. Diane B