do you even bother to read the threads you post in? Yes, I do, thanks ever so for asking, and if you want to keep any of the points you've scored, you'll shut up and note that I'm trying to focus on the issue that seems to drive this particular thread: that damn lighting set. the fact that he keeps returning to renderosity under aliases I'm aware of that, as is just about anyone else who knows his work. No need to state the obvious. he has broken the law, and i was finally able to take action And now I have to ask you: are you reading this thread? There seems to be more than a small issue over who actually developed it and when that's somewhat key to whatever is the problem between you two. I don't know what started this animosity, and frankly I don't care. But I've watched this sandbox mentality for far too long, so let's just address this one thing that you both claim as your own, okay? id be glad to send you both light sets As I told you in the IM, send them on. If anyone else wants to send Bebop's version on as a double-check, that would be appreciated. And no disrespect to you, BH: it's simply a way of making sure this is kept completely above board. ill pretend i didnt hear that Pretend whatever the hell you like. If either or both of you wish to assume to martyr's position, it makes no difference to me. Get off yer damn high horse and send the stuff, okay?