I agree...A historically accurate figure would be nice. Which is why I asked for leather breast-plating. I notice most sites tend to go for a metallic look, but the encyclopedia I'm reading from says Roman soldiers wore leather (which kinda makes sense really). Yeah, I suppose CacheForce might take a money order if I asked 'em. But then that'd mean waiting for them to get it through snail mail, wouldn't it? I'd hate to go through all that for a file that could just as easily be downloaded in about five minutes or less. Judging from Sprout's very generous offer, I think I'd like to save CacheForce as a last resort anyways. :)