true enough, Ivy, but I'm gonna make this so thorough there can be no question. If you read through the thread, some people aren't quite as certain one way or the other. I'd just like it settled with something concretely documented. Now, again, I'm happy to do this because I want to get this matter resolved. I've seen it too many times now, and I've not seen anyone post any sort of hard-number results in the threads. Let's just do it and get it over with so we can al move on, okay?