Ugh! I remeber trying out Amapi 4 which came free from a MacAddict CD and I must say, it makes Infini-D look very user-friendly. Instead of using one tool to simply select, resize, group, and move objects they have four or five different damn tools to perform this task. I tried using the online manual to learn the ropes, but it was no help. Maybe I'm just too used to Ray Dream.