Lmao off Nan, I brought in a stray red Tom once - part mane coon he was HUGE! He went to sniff Guido (he's 4) and Guido yelled at him, that brought Guido's mamma (6.5) running and she tore that tom apart. There was red fur everywhere. I had a heck of a time getting hi off the curtain rods! Trouble (mamma) is a small kitty - not nearly as huge as her boys are. But boy was that tom afraid of her adn he had actually had the house first, his owners moved out and left him...

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