liftan, I'm sure glad you didn't read my answer or write yours. I still couldn't make any sense out of your words. Let me make things plain for you. The problem is some very sick fools who use "freedom of speech" as a mask to hide their evil deeds. Just try to cross these people, and you get creamed on the forums. Keep at it, and things get much worse. Did you ever wonder what happened to some of the people who used to fight these fools? Some of them are apologzing publicly because they can't take the heat. Did you ever wonder why some of the opposition has disappeared? The dirty tricks are not just confined to Renderosity. They extend into the outside world. And no one is willing to stop it. (These days, TOS apparently only exists to protect the bad guys.) Freedom of speech requires responsibility. Your right to swing your fist stops when it reaches my nose. Freedom of speech is a right not a weapon used by the evil against their opposition. You're new to this country, if you can be believed. That's ok, many people who are born here still don't understand what it's really all about. I'm a poserfool, and proud of it.