You know with a can of worms you can catch a lot of fish:-D Bryce is a great program. The only qualm I have with it is its rendering speed, and lack of better environment control...dynamics with water and wind..etc would be nice. But I have heard those are in the works. I would love it if character animation was included in Bryce, but I realize that isn't its main purpose..but I like the interface and design so much that I wish everything was included in it. If plug-in ability becomes available..which I think it will..then who knows what we will see... so many things are possible, and the vast amount of users out there..could make who knows what! I am hoping to upgrade to Bryce 5 but I am wary of whether I should I still have Bryce 4, and I've used Bryce since 2, a vast improvement since. You should see what the original poser was like..haha...it was nothing really..basically all it could be used for was making a reference drawing for artists. But anyway...thats my two cents... Cheers, Brian