Hey Mike, your not the only one. I don't get a crash, just no activity. When I hit "Render" it never get's past the little dialog box telling me it is rendering. Leaving it sit for a long time doesn't help things in any way. I am using the hi-res textures, and tried it first with the full bump map (48Megs for the body) and then shrank the file down to half the size, with same results. I'm not sure what is going on. I thought I would let you know that you are not the only one. eric