Amen Marque and Traveler... My sentiments exactly. I've been amazed by this negative reaction. Cherokee's topic was insane and seemed to hinge on the "Why another model when nothing is out for Mike and I only use Mike so a female model is meaningless to me" on the first part, Dan Farr answered that fairly well in a post a few days ago. Maybe this will help get more interest in Michael. Variety is good. Most of us didn't have to pay for it. Just be glad DAZ is so generous. As for the "don't use anyone but Mike" well... The reason Mike doesn't have the support is because ultimately most people use Victoria more. BUT... And I don't know how anyone can really fault DAZ for listening to supply and demand - but there has been a great deal of stuff recently for Mike and Victoria... There's more in the shop (and I've spent more!) than in ages. We have a new model, we have more options, Traveler is giving away a morph package that adds a great deal to Steph (Who I agree is fairly... limited at this juncture compared to Vic2) But thats how it goes. Be happy we have something new and we'll get it all worked out. If not.. well.. we'll live and learn. More models will come out, more gnashing and grinding of teeth and this too will pass :grins: This place has been SOOOOO touchy lately. Geesh. Anz