I agree with Anzan. We do have a great new model and I said my thank yous in another post. I realise my saying dont buy it yet may have seemed churlish, perhaps even ungrateful but it wasnt meant to be. I only said No because Mayhem specifically asked for a "yes or no" answer at the start of each post. I merely wanted to make Mayhem aware that Stephanie is not yet Victoria, with all her flexibility and support, thats why I said wait. I mean Michael is still some way behind Victoria in support. Having looked a bit more I stand by my less feminine, no-curves comment (bigger breasts doesnt mean curvy to me), but its fairly obvious Stephanie is supposed to be different, actually she gets more curvy if you put a negative figure onto the "Stephanie" dial. She reminded me of the research that was done that said the potentially best female athletes have a double chromosome, sometimes giving slightly more masculine features and bodyshape, muscle mass etc. Stephanie isnt Victoria but she will get there, and at the speed Renderosity goes at it will probably happen quickly. Geez, theres already a texture in the freestuff! I look forward to seeing Stephanie`s development. Anyone who has it might like to try the Jamal texture out on Steph, he is fairly hairless. Anzan, who are you calling touchy, eh? eh? B)