You know, the more I think about it the more I realize that I must actually agree with Lyrra. Those who give their work freely probably should be credited, which of course is why I tend to avoid free stuff- too much work for someone as lazy and disorganized as I. In the end I just find it easier to do the thing myself. But, playing the devil's advocate, if a credit is expected then the item is not truly given away freely. It is just that the payment is a credit line instead of money. A gift with strings attached is not a gift. Perhaps it would be best if those who want credit simply ask for it when the item is distributed. Or maybe they do. I guess I'd have to dl some stuff to find out. Of course, such a stipulation might mean that fewer people would use the item. Whether that is a good thing or a bad thing would have to be decided by the original creator. Of course, I am not criticizing those who desire credit. It really is a personal matter. As an aside, I disagree that photographers or painters rarely use the results of other's visions. Whether we are aware of it or not we are constantly influenced by the work of others who have gone before us. It is inevitable that we take a little bit here, a little bit there and while so doing add a little bit of ourselves as well. I suppose in our dim, distant past there might have been a single artist who started it all. But ever since we have been stealing from each other and I doubt that will ever change. - Jack