Momcat, a suggestion on the PZ3 prob - save your character as a CR2 instead, and save the lights as well. Then choose 'close' in File menu, without saving the scene. Now create a new clean scene from scratch. I mean literally new - choose new from the File menu. Then rebuild the scene as you wanted it using your CR2 and light setup. Save as a new PZ3 and try reloading, see if it's OK. I've had this happen too, a while back - never quite worked out what was wrong. Probably a tiny fault in the PZ3, like an empty line too many or some other seemingly irrelevant thing. :] FishNose