Sorry guys got a little steamed there for no good reason :) Usually I'm a little calmer 'bout this sort of thing. What I can say is I go out of way for people that have taken thr trouble to credit my work, and especially those that email me. If you don't want to, or can't for whatever reason - feel free not to. shrug that is your right I suppose. When crediting I tend to mention the big obvious stuff - or at least mention the filename if I've lost the authors name. And more than once the maker has written me to remind me :) April New toys? Hair for 'gender is a construct' Stephanie? Mike's TG 'sister'? :) Doesn't it just kill ya after you remapped him to take Vic's stuff? :) (that was you right?) Lyrra