Dunno, really. If an item or figure is not something you see everyday (say ferinstance I used Thorne's very unique faerie, like I did at my wee Open Art site), then yeah, I certainly go out of my way to give credit. How I give credit for non-commercial renders? Well, it depends on how prominent the items are, and how vital they are to conveying the image message, how unique they are WRT other, similar meshes. It's like this: Say I did a render of RMS Titanic going down; we're in the Grand Staircase, and all Hell is breaking loose, with stuff flying everywhere. If the focus of the render is the horrified look on a woman's face, then whoever helped get her together for me to finish will get more credit than, say, the creator of a potted plant mesh flying across the background. Whoever built the staircase scene (if it wasn't me - I'd been threatening to build one) will also get the lion's share of the credit as well, since it frames the image. It's all a matter of proportion... although the artist who built the plant put no less work and effort into their creation than the artist who built the character (oftentimes the prop artists work harder, but that's just my wee bias), unless that's where the focus of the picture lies there's no sense in going nuts trying to credit every little piece in your render. I mean, everyone knows what Vicky's basic geometry looks like, so why bother crediting DAZ every time you post an image of her? Now, if you used a certain character as a base for further creative energies, then it would be more appropriate to credit whoever made the character. Example - if the character in an image you do is a combination of Vicky + Dark Whisper's 'Nicole' char & tex, and then you added morphs atop that, then wouldn't it be more appropriate to give DW credit than to DAZ? (don't get me wrong - DAZ does great stuff, just that if you're going to credit someone, it's usually kinder to help the little guys out.) Bah - I'm turning into a windbag. I'll shaddap now. /P