No, it was completely rendered in Bryce. Only use photoshop to darken and contrast a bit. I think what happened to the shadow is that I had soft shadows at 50% on the spotlight. I then used Premiun rendering with all the settings selected (i.e. soft shadows, blurry reflections, blurry transmissions, true ambience) except depth of field. I think that cause his shadow to go bye-bye. Thats ok, I am going with the render i did in Truespace (over in the WIP gallery) instead. Thank you for all of your wonderful comments and suggestions peace jquest