Hi Jaager, "Back in the Poser 3 days, CR2Edit in its early versions would do it. It could not handle Poser 4 pz3." Version 3 was before P4 and wouldn't do P4 stuff, and the tool was dropped from some versions of CR2edit4, but is in ver5 and makes CR2's without the setup info. Some very early versions of 5 might leave the setup info in. regards, Dan http://www.zenwareonline.com for CR2Edit, ZenPaint, ZenTile, VueMaster and the complete line of Zenware graphics apps