Huolong, I have the cords as part of the mesh because they didn't move at all well any other way. The insignia are smart props. I DO have the jacket mesh without them or the collor trim, as a seperate mesh. PheonixRising, I can eleminate the "seam" at the mesh level. I was trying for a suit jaket look and was surprise by the way it stretched aroung the shoulder. I'm wondering if fooling in the joint editor might bring it back to the point of the shoulder, but I hven't found the right combination, if there is one. THe cording floating may be an optical illusion. Looking at it in wire freame it seems to be partially imbedded in the sleeve mesh all of the way around. I'll double (triple) check it. Thanks for the comments. mike