Oh lord, a weasel lover! What IS the word coming to? Maybe America really IS doomed. ROTFLMAO :) FT, I think, perhaps, that many experienced Brycers were mainly PFO members. I've recently tried my hand at complex boolean modeling in Bryce, as you've seen. There seems to be little of that here. Boolean modeling was a big thing on the PFO Bryce forum. I'm hoping some of the Bryce owners here will start to dabble in that part of Bryce. Basically, other than you and Spike, no one else seems to know the answer when I pose a question. The main focus of the members here seems to be Poser. It was the same on the PFO, but the proportion of Bryce users, judging from the posts, was greater. Perhaps, in time, it will be here too. Maybe I should try doing a tutorial on how I did my battlecruisers. That should wake them up! :) Greywolf